“But don’t be entangled in vagina civilization… It is most abominable civilization… condemned civilization.”

“But don’t be entangled in vagina civilization… It is most abominable civilization… condemned civilization.”

Prabhupada said, “Yes. Yes, dog also smells the vagina, and they also do the same thing. Therefore nature has arranged that dog are smelling vagina on the street. One vagina and three dozen dogs surrounded.” – Room Conversation, 25 February 1977, Mayapur

Prabhupada: Why you are after these things?

Tamala Krishna: Hm. Wasting human life.

Prabhupada: You’ll get woman. So be satisfied, the nature’s gift of woman, nature’s gift of your position, and utilize your life for Krishna consciousness. Why more and more, more, and naked and this way and that way? The other day what did I say? Vagina-licking civilization.

Bali-mardana: Hm?

Tamala Krishna: Vagina-licking civilization.

Prabhupada: They’re spending so much money for vagina-looking.

Tamala Krishna: Oh, that’s their whole consciousness.

Prabhupada: Yes. The money is earned with so hard labor and it is spent for vagina-looking.

Tamala Krishna: Polished dog society.

Prabhupada: Yes. Yes, dog also smells the vagina, and they also do the same thing. Therefore nature has arranged that dog are smelling vagina on the street. One vagina and three dozen dogs surrounded.

Tamala Krishna: Yes. Vrindavana you see that.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krishna: Now that’s going on in America. They are spending money just for that.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Tamala Krishna: Three dozen men look at one woman, same business.

Bali-mardana: And they make big literatures, magazines, everywhere, all over the streets. They put them in the street…

Tamala Krishna: The big thing now in America, the most popular shop, is called “Adult Books.” “Adult Bookshop.”

Hari-sauri: “Adult cinema,” “adult this,” “adult that.”

Prabhupada: Topless, bottomless. Yan mathunadi-grhamedhi-sukham hi tucchamn kanduyena karayor iva duhkha-duhkham, trpyanti neha krpana bahu-duhkha-bhajah [SB 7.9.45]. Bahu-duhkha-bhajah. Krpana. The rascals. Krpana means non-brahmana, without any spiritual knowledge. They are never satisfied, the vagina business. Trpyanti neha krp – although it is followed by so much miserable condition – bahu-duhkha-bhajah kandutivan manasijam visaheta dhirah. One who is dhira, sober, he tolerates little itching sensation: “What this nonsense?” And if you practice toleration, there will be no more. Finished. You become liberated. Therefore, from the very beginning of life, childhood, this teach him, that “Don’t be a vagina-smelling animal.” Brahmacari. Brahmacari guru-grhe vasan dantah. To learn how to control the senses, that is brahmacari. Where is that civilization? So establish. Give them food. Give them shelter. Give them knowledge. That is para-upakara, doing welfare to others. But don’t be entangled in vagina civilization. Yan mathunadi-grhamedhi-sukham [SB 7.9.45]. It is most abominable civilization, tuccham, condemned civilization.

“You require vagina; take one vagina. Be satisfied.”

“You require vagina; take one vagina. Be satisfied.”

Prabhupada said, “The dog likes to smell the vagina. You are like that. What is business of going another vagina? You require vagina. Take one and be satisfied. That is intelligence. First of all there is no need of vagina. But if you want, take one and be satisfied. Why you are searching after dog vagina, this vagina, that vagina, that vagina?” – Room conversation with Adi-Kesava Swami, 19 February 1977, Mayapur

Prabhupada: No, we… “It is voluntary. In our society we find so many brahmacārīs, so many gṛhasthas. And if you cannot stop this itching sensation, all right, marry one girl and live peacefully like a gentle… What is this nonsense, every three weeks divorce? We are not so rascal. If we accept one girl as my wife, I take full responsibility. Because I require a girl or woman, so this woman, that one… We are not so rascal that at home I have got woman, I am searching after another woman, another naked woman. We are not so madman. The sex pleasure is there at home, and I am seeking after sex pleasure in here, here, in the club, in the… What is that? Is that vagina is different? You are so fool. You require vagina; take one vagina. Be satisfied. And lick it. Why you are going here and there, here and there, here and there? Even old man is going to the nightclub to lick another vagina. Is that civilization? You are proud of your civilization.” Tell them like that. “Licking of the vagina, different, obnoxious smell. You are less than the dog. The dog likes to smell the vagina. You are like that. What is business of going another vagina? You require vagina. Take one and be satisfied. That is intelligence. First of all there is no need of vagina. But if you want, take one and be satisfied. Why you are searching after dog vagina, this vagina, that vagina, that vagina? Is that civilization?” Expose them like that. “Your brain is filled with so much stool, so we are washing it. What is the wrong there?”

Adi-kesava: Actually they all need brainwashing.

Prabhupada: Yes, “Every one of you require, because your brain is filled up with stool. You have no brain. Brain is covered with stool.” What they will answer?

Satsvarupa: That “If I want to have a stool brain, it may be lamentable, but don’t force me to be washed.

Prabhupada: It is not force. It is no…

Satsvarupa: Let me remain in stool.

Prabhupada: We are preaching. It does not mean that we are forcing. We are saying that “Your brain is in stool. Wash it like this. If one agrees, he does it. Not that in our movement all world has joined. One who is intelligent, he has agreed, ‘Yes.’ I am not forcing. If I would have possessed that forcive power, what right you have got to bring me in the court? You are forcing me to stop this. You are forcing. Nobody can force, but you are forcing.” You should take this argument and expose them at least in the court, licking of the vagina civilization, like dog. Yes animals do that.

Adi-kesava: I think the more strongly we preach in this way, that we don’t try to give in and compromise…

Prabhupada: No, no, no.

Adi-kesava: The more that everyone will hear about this issue…

Prabhupada: We must expose them, that’s all. This is our business. This is a good opportunity in the court, so that it will be published. People will know what is our philosophy. Licking of vagina civilization, this. Publish.

“You will find very beautiful girl is keeping very big dog.”

“You will find very beautiful girl is keeping very big dog.”

Prabhupada said, “You will find very beautiful girl is keeping very big dog. They are trained to have sex life. And that is cause of syphilis.” – Lecture on Srimad-Bhagavatam 2.9.9, Informal Class in Room, 25 April 1972, Tokyo

Syamasundara: And every time she tried to have a child, because they lead such a decadent life, she has miscarriage every time.
Prabhupada: That means she has got syphilitic poison. Girls who cannot bear child means there is syphilitic poison. Either the man has got syphilitic poison or the woman has got syphilitic poison. And for these men, syphilis is not very uncommon.
Sudama: In this country, it is now also very, like epidemic.
Prabhupada: Syphilis. All over Europe. When Dr. Ghosh, who is my friend, he came to see me in Allahabad? One doctor? So he is friend. He told me that when he was student, Colonel (indistinct), one big professor, medicine, he was lecturing. He was Englishman. He said that “In our country, seventy to eighty percent of the student community, they are suffering from syphilitic attack.” So in our country, in India, if one is attacked with syphilis, then he is taken as very abominable. His character is not good, it is understood. So he said, “Horrible,” Dr. Ghosh, because he was Indian student. So Colonel (indistinct) replied, “Why you are saying horrible? In your country ninety percent people are attacked malaria. So there, syphilis. So as a medical practitioner why you take this disease as bad or that disease as good? Your business is to see that there should be no disease. Don’t consider in that way, that ‘This disease is good, this disease is bad.’ ” That’s nice explanation. But fifty years ago or hundred years ago syphilitic poison was very much prevalent. Still it is in Europe and America. And now it is spreading all over. And in Ayurveda it is said, phiranga, phiranga. Phirangi. The Europeans are described in Vedic literatures as phirangi, their name is phirangi. So this syphilitic disease is mentioned in the Ayurveda, the disease brought by the phirangis. And the doctor says that originally it was spread through dog. The unmarried girls, they keep dog for sex. You do not know? He knows. You will find very beautiful girl is keeping very big dog. They are trained to have sex life. And that is cause of syphilis. The dog is full of syphilitic germs. It is called phiranga in the Ayurveda. And one who has got syphilitic germs, his life is doomed. Unless it is properly treated and cured, so many disease will follow. So many. This craziness is also due to syphilitic poison, parents.
Sudama: There is a case of a very famous gangster, Al Capone, and others. They died in the prison house of syphilis of the mind, brain.
Prabhupada: Just see.
Sudama: They went crazy.
Prabhupada: So how much by nature the sex life is condemned in so many ways. Therefore we say “No illicit sex.” It will save you from so many encumbrances. Sex life is not denied, but this unrestricted sex life is very very abominable in human society. But they are encouraging unrestricted sex life. They are distributing tablets, encouraging others to have sex life. Never mind. Unmarried girls they are keeping dogs. One lady in America, she told me that the dogs are kept for this purpose. When I was going to walk in that park in Brooklyn, the young girls are bringing dogs, big, big dogs.
“…The sexual appetite of a woman is nine times greater than that of a man.”

“…The sexual appetite of a woman is nine times greater than that of a man.”

Prabhupada said, “It is understood that the sexual appetite of a woman is nine times greater than that of a man.” – SB 3.23.44, purport

“Here the daughter of Svayambhuva Manu, Devahuti, is described as suratotsuka. After traveling with her husband all over the universe, in Mount Meru and the beautiful gardens of the heavenly kingdoms, she naturally became sexually stimulated, and in order to satisfy her sexual desire, Kardama Muni expanded himself into nine forms. Instead of one, he became nine, and nine persons had sexual intercourse with Devahuti for many, many years. It is understood that the sexual appetite of a woman is nine times greater than that of a man. That is clearly indicated here. Otherwise, Kardama Muni would have had no reason to expand himself into nine.”

“When a husbandless woman is attacked by an aggressive man, she takes his action to be mercy.”

“When a husbandless woman is attacked by an aggressive man, she takes his action to be mercy.”

Prabhupada said, “When a husbandless woman is attacked by an aggressive man, she takes his action to be mercy.” – SB 4.25.42, purport

“When a husbandless woman is attacked by an aggressive man, she takes his action to be mercy. A woman is generally very much attracted by a man’s long arms. A serpent’s body is round, and it becomes narrower and thinner at the end. The beautiful arms of a man appear to a woman just like serpents, and she very much desires to be embraced by such arms.

“The word anatha-varga is very significant in this verse. Natha means ‘husband,’ and a means ‘without.’ A young woman who has no husband is called anatha, meaning ‘one who is not protected.’ As soon as a woman attains the age of puberty, she immediately becomes very much agitated by sexual desire. It is therefore the duty of the father to get his daughter married before she attains puberty. Otherwise she will be very much mortified by not having a husband. Anyone who satisfies her desire for sex at that age becomes a great object of satisfaction. It is a psychological fact that when a woman at the age of puberty meets a man and the man satisfies her sexually, she will love that man for the rest of her life, regardless who he is. Thus so-called love within this material world is nothing but sexual satisfaction.”

“…It is very nice system that one man can marry more than one wife. That is natural.”

“…It is very nice system that one man can marry more than one wife. That is natural.”

Prabhupada said, “…It is very nice system that one man can marry more than one wife. That is natural.” – Lecture on SB 1.2.16, 19 August 1972, Los Angeles

“According to Vedic civilization, because man is very aggressive, so he’s allowed to accept more than one wife. He’s allowed. Generally, female population is greater than the male population. So the Vedic principle is that every girl must be married by the guardian, father. A father’s duty is, as soon as girl is thirteen years old, fourteen years old, it is the duty of the father, or in the absence of father, it is the duty of elder brother to get her married. Some way or other, find out any husband. Yes. So if every girl has to be married, and if the female population is greater, then where to get so many husbands? Therefore it is very nice system that one man can marry more than one wife. That is natural.”

“Man has no maximum. Even an eighty-years-old man can marry a sixteen-years-old girl.”

“Man has no maximum. Even an eighty-years-old man can marry a sixteen-years-old girl.”

Prabhupada said, “Man has no maximum. Even an eighty-years-old man can marry a sixteen-years-old girl.” – Room conversation, 27 February 1977, Mayapur

Radha-vallabha: He is nineteen years old, and he made arrangement with…

Prabhupada: This boy?

Radha-vallabha: Yes. The boy that wrote that. And he made arrangement with another devotee to marry her daughter at a later date. She’s only twelve. So I’ve told him not to do anything until I spoke to you, because I don’t think this has ever been done in our movement yet.

Prabhupada: Hm?

Radha-vallabha: I don’t think anyone has ever done this before in our movement, the Vedic system. So I had a few questions about it. First of all I told them that they shouldn’t associate until the actual time that they get married. That’s true, isn’t it?

Prabhupada: No, no, marriage, they do not speak. That is the disease in your country, that… There is no objection nineteen-years-old boy and twelve-years girl, it is very good combination, but the culture is so bad that after few days they will separate.

Radha-vallabha: Yes. That’s the actual problem.

Prabhupada: If they stick to have one husband and one wife, it is very good. Or even the man can marry more than one wife. That is allowed in the Vedic system. The difficulty is nobody remains as wife, nobody remains husband. It is very dangerous. That is against Vedic. Otherwise man can have more than one wife, but woman cannot marry more than one husband. But the system – the boys and girls intermingle so freely, and in your country there is no restriction – naturally it becomes adulterated. That is the danger.

Radha-vallabha: So he wanted to know that…

Prabhupada: Knowing or no knowing, they’ll not do with him. So what is the use of consulting me? They’ll break. They’ll promise and they’ll break. How you can make them standardized? They will break.

Radha-vallabha: They have to be responsible people.

Prabhupada: They’ll never become. That is my experience. So what is the use of consulting me? They’ll never become. Almost impossible. They’ll not keep standardized.

Radha-vallabha: So it should just be up to them.

Prabhupada: What is the use of consulting? They’ll promise and they’ll break.

Radha-vallabha: Yes, you were telling me in Hawaii about that, that that is the difficulty. They have no responsibility. All right, I’ll tell him that.

Prabhupada: Hm?

Radha-vallabha: I will tell him that.

Prabhupada: Otherwise there is no objection. I married; my wife was eleven years old.

Radha-vallabha: You were responsible, though.

Prabhupada: Eh?

Radha-vallabha: But you were responsible.

Prabhupada: Everyone in India responsible. That is Indian culture still.

Radha-vallabha: Should… When they agree at this young age, they should wait till they get older, right?

Prabhupada: Yes. Generally a girl attains puberty at fourteen years, thirteen years. In India because it is tropical climate… I think in Western countries they attain puberty not before fifteen, sixteen years. So although a girl is married before puberty, she is not allowed to go to the husband until she has attained puberty. Formerly, in our days also, after attaining puberty there is another second marriage. Then the husband and wife live together.

Radha-vallabha: Is there a minimum age for the man?

Prabhupada: No. That is… Minimum age means generally the husband must be older than the wife, at least five years’ difference.

Radha-vallabha: What is the most amount of years they can be different? What is the maximum amount of years there can be difference?

Prabhupada: Man has no maximum. Even an eighty-years-old man can marry a sixteen-years-old girl. (laughter)

Radha-vallabha: Because this one devotee has a daughter twelve and he wanted to marry her to a man twenty-six, but he thought that was too much difference.

Prabhupada: Yes. That is too much difference. But eight years, ten years usual.

Radha-vallabha: Eight or ten years is best. So he also wanted to know if…

Prabhupada: That is healthy.

Radha-vallabha: He wanted to know also…

Prabhupada: And in no case… The girl must not be older than the boy. That’s not good at all.

Radha-vallabha: At the time of the agreement, when they are not yet old enough, they do not associate at all. So not until the actual marriage do they associate or wear white or anything like that.

Prabhupada: No, even they can be married, but no association.

Radha-vallabha: No association. So the boy can be… If the girl has attained puberty say at thirteen, fourteen, even if the boy is only twenty, twenty-one it is all right. All right. I wanted to make sure. I wasn’t allowing them to see each other. I wanted to make sure they weren’t doing anything un-bona fide. So I’ll tell him that.

“How much she has learned to remain as a slave to the husband, that is Vedic civilization.”

“How much she has learned to remain as a slave to the husband, that is Vedic civilization.”

Prabhupada said, “And our Vedic civilization says, nari-rupam pati-vratam: ‘The woman is beautiful when she remains as a slave to the husband.’ That is the beauty, not the personal beauty. How much she has learned to remain as a slave to the husband, that is Vedic civilization.” – Morning walk, 19 March 1976, Mayapur

“We are worshiping that supreme and original person. And the women are declaring, ‘independent.’ They are begging door to door to a man, ‘Please give me shelter. Give me a child,’ and they’re independent. One American woman, was…. She was speaking that ‘In India the woman are treated as slave. We don’t want.’ So I told her that it is better to become slave of one person than to slave of become hundreds. (laughter) The woman must become a slave. So instead of becoming slaves of so many persons, it is better to remain satisfied, a slave of one person. So she was stopped. She was the secretary of that Dr. Misra. You know that? And our Vedic civilization says, nari-rupam pati-vratam: ‘The woman is beautiful when she remains as a slave to the husband.’ That is the beauty, not the personal beauty. How much she has learned to remain as a slave to the husband, that is Vedic civilization. Kokilanam svaro rupam. The cuckoo, it is black bird, but why people love it? Because of the sweet voice. Kokilanam svaro rupam vidya-rupam kurupanam. A man may be ugly, black, but if he’s learned, everyone will respect him. And nari-rupam pati-vratam. And the beauty of woman is how much she is devoted and obedient to the husband.”

“Polygamy is allowed.”

“Polygamy is allowed.”

Prabhupada said, “Therefore, according to Vedic rituals, those who are higher caste, just like the ksatriyas or the brahmanas, especially, others also, polygamy is allowed. Polygamy is allowed.” – Lecture on SB 1.8.51, 13 May 1973, Los Angeles

“But now things have changed. Nobody cares whether the daughter is married or not. But that is not good. Another difficulty is that everywhere, all over the world, the female population is greater than, on the average, than male population. So if each and every woman has to be married, then there is no sufficient number of male population. Therefore, according to Vedic rituals, those who are higher caste, just like the ksatriyas or the brahmanas, especially, others also, polygamy is allowed. Polygamy is allowed. Just like our most exalted personality, Krishna, He has married sixteen thousand wives. He is God. (laughter) Unless you have got so many wives, how you can be God?”

“We are therefore in favor of polygamy…”

“We are therefore in favor of polygamy…”

Prabhupada said, “If all the girls are not married there is a good chance of adultery, and a society in which adultery is allowed cannot be very peaceful or pure. In our Krishna consciousness society we have restricted illicit sex. The practical difficulty is to find a husband for each and every girl. We are therefore in favor of polygamy, provided, of course, that the husband is able to maintain more than one wife.” – CC Adi 14.58, purport

“In India in those days and even until fifty years ago, polygamy was freely allowed. Any man, especially of the higher castes – the brahmanas, the vaisyas and particularly the kshatriyas – could marry more than one wife. In the Mahabharata, or the old history of India, we see that kshatriya kings especially used to marry many wives. According to Vedic civilization there was no restriction against this, and even a man more than fifty years old could marry. But to be married to a man who had many wives was not a very pleasing situation because the husband’s love would be divided among his many wives. To punish the girls unwilling to offer Him the naivedya, Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu apparently wanted to curse them to be married to men who had at least four wives.

“The social structure allowing a man to marry more than one wife can be supported in this way. Generally in every society the female population is greater in number than the male population. Therefore if it is a principle in the society that all girls should be married, unless polygamy is allowed it will not be possible. If all the girls are not married there is a good chance of adultery, and a society in which adultery is allowed cannot be very peaceful or pure. In our Krishna consciousness society we have restricted illicit sex. The practical difficulty is to find a husband for each and every girl. We are therefore in favor of polygamy, provided, of course, that the husband is able to maintain more than one wife.”